Recording Mixes with an External Mixer

CassetteThe mix recorder that is integrated into Traktor makes it easy to record your own sets. When using a combo device that uses internal mixing mode (like Kontrol S2, Kontrol S4 and similiar controllers) almost no configuration is needed.

When you are using an external mixer a little bit of configuration is necessary.

 

When using a mixer with an integrated audio interface you first need to configure your mixer in a way that the Record Out signal of the mixer is routed to one of the input channels of the mixer's audio interface. One example of how to proceed can be found on Tim MixArchitekt website. He explains on his website how to setup Xone:DB4 for recording. if you are using another mixer with an integrated audio interface, please check the manual to find out how to  set it up.

When using a mixer without an integrated audio interface you use an external soundcard to get the audio from Traktor into your mixer. To use the Traktor mix recorder, connect the record out of your mixer to a free input channel of your soundcard. If you are using a Traktor Audio 6 or Traktor Audio 10, you can use the Main Input of these soundcards.

Then proceed as follows to configure Traktor:

  1. Open the Preferences/Output Routing dialog and check if Mixing Mode is set to External.
  2. Open the category Input Routing and perform one of the following actions:
    Mix Recorder Setup
    • When using a mixer with an integrated soundcard, assign the two mixer channels that the mix out signal is being sent on to one of the four Channels A to D.
    • When using an external soundcard, assign the channels of your audio interface to which, you connected the cable coming from your mixer, to one of the Input Channels A to D.
  3. Open the category Mix Recorder. The setting Source must be set to External.
  4. Open the list External Input and select the channels that you assigned the two mixer channels to in step 2.
    Mix Recorder Setup
  5. Close the Preferences dialog.

Please note that the Headroom setting configured on Preferences/Mixer is applied to the recorded signal as well. For example, when the Headroom is set to -6dB, then the volume of the recording is lowered by -6dB. To correct this it often makes sense to change the Gain value in the Mix Recorder panel.

 

Author: Rainer G. Haselier
Published: March 12, 2012

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FluffyClubBerlin
wrote on March 13, 2012 at 13:09
toll erklärt ... aber, nun erklär doch noch den "unwissenden" wie Du das ganze mit z.B. der Audio2 (die nunmal keine Eingänge hat) konfigurierst, zweite Soundkarte geht ja nun leider nicht mit Windows Systemen :) knobel knobel
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Mit der Audio 2 geht das nicht. Eben genau wegen der fehlenden Eingänge. Die A2 ist auch eher für den internen Mixer-Modus konzipiert, wo man dann keine Eingänge braucht.
 
Jan
wrote on March 16, 2012 at 07:42
Wie geht das mit der Audio4? Kann man da mit einem Adapter die Kopfhörerbuchse nutzen?
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Wenn du die Audio 4 nicht für Timecode verwendest, kannst du das Record-Out-Signal des Mixers in eine der beiden Inputs schicken und dann dieses Signal aufnehmen.
 
malzfreund
wrote on March 16, 2012 at 17:46
bei mir (TSP 2.1.2) sieht der screenshot anders aus. da gibt es im input routing noch die möglichkeit, "input aux" etwas zuzuweisen. basiert dieses tutorial vielleicht auf einer älteren traktor-version oder gibt es da unterschiede zwischen pro und scratch pro?

frage nur so interessehalber...

 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Input Aux gibt's nur im internen Mixing-Mode. In diesem Tutorial geht es aber um Aufnehmen im externen Mixing-Modus.
 
malzfreund
wrote on March 16, 2012 at 17:47
ähm, eine scratch-version ist es ja. also vielleicht eine ältere traktor-version?
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
siehe oben
 
Thomas
wrote on March 24, 2012 at 20:37
Hallo Rainer,

leider stoße ich beim Set up auf Probleme. Ich selbst nutze Traktor Scratch Pro 2 in Kombination mit einem Xone DB4.
Sobald ich die Einstellungen wie von Mixarchiteck beschrieben vornehme, ist das Aufnahmesignal extrem leise. Sobald ich Main auf +3 dB und den Audio Recorder Gain auf +9 dB stelle, ist das Signal annehmbar laut.
Dabei springt aber Main schon teilweise in den roten Bereich.

Hast du eine Idee?
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Hi Thomas,

das deckt sich mit meinen Erfahrungen. Ich würde eher empfehlen, den Audio Recorder Gain weiter aufzudrehen und das Master Level bei 0dB stehen zu lassen, damit die Signale von Traktor ohne Clipping beim DB4 ankommen.

LG Rainer
 
Michel
wrote on March 24, 2012 at 22:12
Hallo Rainer,

benutze im Moment das Traktor 2 mit dem Behringer DJX 750 + Reloop Contour Interface Edition. Ist es mit diesem Equipment möglich aufzunehmen ?

Greetings Michel
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Hi Michel,

ich vermute du verwendest den Reloop als Soundkarte, alle vier Outs sind an den Mixer angeschlossen, und du nutzt den externen Mixer-Modus von Traktor? Der Soundkarte des Reloop fehlt (wenn ich das richtig sehe) ein Stereoeingang, an den man das Tape-Out des Mixers anschließen und dann so wie oben beschrieben in Traktor aufnehmen kann.
Alternative: Das Tape-Out an den Eingang einer anderen Soundkarte anschließen, ein Recordertool wie z.B. Audacity verwenden und dann mit diesem Programm aufnehmen.

LG Rainer
 
Dj Dent
wrote on April 11, 2012 at 17:32
What if I want to use 4 channels to play?? How can I record my mix then? I have an Audio 10 and a 4 channel mixer.
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
Use the Main Input on the Audio 10 to feed the Record-Out from your mixer into the Mix Recorder.
 
Dusty Bacon
wrote on May 2, 2012 at 09:12
Howdy Rainer,

One concern I hoped you would address is what is the system drain (CPU, etc.) due to the integrated Traktor recorder actively recording the set.

Does it make a difference whether you are mixing internally or externally? I worry that if I record a live set it could cause my system to slow down but perhaps my fear is unfounded?

-Dusty Bacon
 Rainer G. Haselier (admin) says:
You wouldn't notice a higher CPU load by using the Mix Recorder.
This works fine in external and in internal mixing mode.

Rainer
 
truest
wrote on May 12, 2012 at 12:53
Hi Rainer,

thanks for your work! One question though, I have a Denon MC6000 and I'd like to use it in internal mix mode (it has a stand-alone mixer) as it has some advantanges, ie I can better control the output for each channel with the built-in level meter as opposed to only the master out in PC (traktor mode). I see the logic in your setup, but I don't think I can do that, can I? I have 4 input channels (2 for deck 1, 2 for deck 2) and not 2 only, so I guess I can't re-route all 4 to a single deck (c or d). Or do you have an idea?

Cheers and thanks a lot!

truest
 
Suerte
wrote on June 2, 2012 at 17:40
Hey,

nachdem ich leider feststellen musste, dass meine Traktor Audio 2 zum Set aufnehmen ungeeignet ist, habe ich mir die TASCAM US-122 MK II ausgeliehen.

Kann ich mit Traktor Pro 2 & der TASCAM US-122MK II ein Set aufnehmen?
Und wenn ja was genau muss ich wohin kabeln?

Über eure Hilfe wäre ich sehr dankbar!

LG Suerte
 
Deon du Toit
wrote on August 17, 2012 at 17:58
Hi

Ive got a crackling on my recordings.
My timecoding is also haywire on channel chosen 

Using 2 x 2000's and djm800 mixer with audio 10

Pls help

 
Rob
wrote on November 8, 2012 at 13:18
I have a Behringer DDM-4000. What is the configuration to set that mixer to record with Traktor Audio 6?
 
scott
wrote on April 21, 2013 at 00:39
Could you please help with a problem that i have noticed with Traktor Scratch Pro 1.,
When recording in External Mode using Timecode Vinyl the Quality of the Recording is Not as good as it is when Recording In Internal Mode,Both my Turntables have had new audio cables,and new carts,and i use a pioneer djm 700.
When i listen back to the recording i did in External mode it sounds Dull ,,,,But when listening back to the recording  in internal mode ,,It sounds like the original 320kb -Crisp and clear...
Any help from you will be welcomed.
Cheers 
 
Leo
wrote on November 21, 2013 at 00:48
Hello Rainer, 

I have a big question that i haven't seen asked yet, surprinsgly because my problem is simple; 

I have a beringher that i use as a mixer, and 2 numark vinyl turntable, i want to record a mix of vinyls, using my 2 turntables, BUT, on the configuration they don't let me put both decks as inputs, like your screen shot shows i have to choose between A and B so i can't record my mix ! 


please help me 

thanks a lot ! 
 
Iain D
wrote on January 16, 2014 at 04:10
Hey there. I have a Behringer DDM4000 and two Gemini CDJ700s which I use as MIDI controllers. I am also using an Audio 4 soundcard. Since Traktor crashes when I attempt to create an aggregate audio device with ASIO4ALL, I need to use the Audio 4 even though I have soundcards within the CDJ700s. Is it possible to just use the Audio 4 with my setup (2 decks) and still record using Traktor's external mode? At the moment it is setup in the configuration that it used for timecode, yet I use MIDI.

Also, is there a way to use the combined soundcards (Gemini + Audio 4) with the ASIO4ALL aggregate device (as NI themselves suggest!) to give me more outputs for other devices?

Cheers!
I
 
Geno lesage
wrote on January 20, 2014 at 18:43
Ok so I have Gemini cdmp7000 and im having issues recording my mixes and broadcasting. The mixer is 2 channel analog So i cant route my record out into an open line because I dont have an open line there is a 3rd( aux) channel. But does not have a IN on the mixer like my two line channels. Any ideas? Ive run my record out into my Mic input on my computer but the sound quality is terrible.
 
Alex
wrote on March 8, 2014 at 11:04
Hallo zusammen,


ein Neuling benötigt bitte eure Hilfe:

Ich arbeite mit einem imac, Traktor Pro 2 und dem American Audio VMS4. Der Sound geht raus in eine 5.1 Anlage von Teufel (Concept E 350 Control - Set). Ich habe massive Probleme bei der Einstellung des Output Routing. Ich habe es so verstanden, dass ich dies über internal einstellen muss. Leider bekomme ich das nicht so
 
Akex
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